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Name:owb pukapuka
Title:Origyn Web Browser, webkit, CSS capable
Owner:Not assigned
URL:http://www.sand-labs.org/owb
Created:20080831 19:05 by orgin
 Issue details
Type:BugSeverity:Minor
Status:ClosedStatus Comment:
Title:Layout change
Version:3.29
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joergRe: With the new fixed resize window (bug 519) we are introd20100621 01:32
With the new fixed resize window (bug 519) we are introduced a new issue, if you try to open this telescope image: http://snipurl.com/xlf7s

OWB will change the layout of the entire OWB's window (also the other tabs opened!)
Of course, and because it makes no sense to support it if the TABS tooltype is enabled I didn't implemet it - until you submitted bug #519.
Do you want me to remove this feature again now?
samo79Re: With the new fixed resize window (bug 519) we are introd20100621 02:31
@joerg

No please I don't want it :-))))

Simply I asked if we can add the window support also when TABS are enabled because the necessity to open contents in a new window happen very very often, also if you are using OWB with tabs enabled, that doesn't mean that TABS isn't usefull or I prefer window instead of tabs and so on ...

Well just use a tab-alike browser on other platform and you will see, popup, banner, kiosk window and so on, there are a lot of use

You are right on certain point, this maybe can make in discussion the presence of the actual tooltype (TABS enabled or not) aniway ...
padrinoRe: With the new fixed resize window (bug 519) we are introd20100621 12:51
@samo79

Doesn't IBrowse e.g. disable some "magic" if a window opens automatically? And when opened by hand all is different?
E.g. it also warn when a site is trying to close TABs.
Maybe something similar could be in OWB.
It' not so nice, to have a TABed OWB resize for every spam-popup (as commented in bug #519)
samo79Re: With the new fixed resize window (bug 519) we are introd20100621 17:50
>>>
Doesn't IBrowse e.g. disable some "magic" if a window opens automatically? And when opened by hand all is different?
>>>

Yes on other browser unwanted external windows are generally blocked by Adblock or somethings similar, but there are a lot of case when a user/webdevelopers have the necessity to open their contents in an external window, this is off course very different than the spammers usage :-))

Fot that I see no reason to force users to choice or only tabs or only windows tooltype, sometimes (but i can say often) we have the necessity to have both functionality at the same time :-)

Feature #519 was introduced because "resize window" behaviour is mandatory for cartain effects, but generally it will used only for external windows, now cause the actual "limitation" of OWB, it open that kind of windows only inside OWB (on another tab) for that we have this strange affect that can changes the entire layout of the main OWB window!

samo79Re: With the new fixed resize window (bug 519) we are introd20100622 21:14
@samo79

This page is an example, but you can find many ...

http://www.qimmagine.it/fotografie.html

If you click on link galleries it must open an external window with a specific width/height, but this is impossible using OWB with TABS as it always open contents in a new tab instead of a new window :-/
ChrisHGo back to how it was20100628 23:49
It is annoying that OWB's window often resizes due to some pop-up, I had no problems before. Please change it back to how it was!
joergRe: Go back to how it was20100703 00:46
@ChrisH

It is annoying that OWB's window often resizes due to some pop-up, I had no problems before. Please change it back to how it was!
Done, "feature" #519 is removed again in the next version.
nbacheRe: Go back to how it was20100711 18:56
@joerg

Thank you *so* much! I fully support this.

The browser does *not* belong to the web developer or his/her customer. The browser belongs to the user. The user gets to decide how big its window should be. If the web site doesn't want to fill up that window with content, so be it. But it should never be allowed to force a smaller window on the user.

(And I am a web (among other things) developer myself.)

Best regards,

Niels
samo79Re: Go back to how it was20100716 16:07
@nbache

Well it's curious as our main site (amigans.net) use this exact behaviour to show the online users when you click on "more..."

http://www.amigans.net/misc.php?action=showpopups&type=online

In real life that mean it open a popup window with a fix dimention, so this is exactly the case when a web developer choose to show a popup window instead of a "normal" one, but ok we are Amigans so other in the world are strange .. :-))
ChrisHRe: Go back to how it was20100815 23:30
@joerg
THANKS!
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